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Russian interference in European politics[edit]

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Came across this article when doing research on the Mueller special counsel investigation. The page contains way too many quotations, close paraphrasing and improper use of a non-free source, and overall fails WP:GNG. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 13:07, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Zander Murray[edit]

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Fails GNG. Sources in the article are routine transfer coverage/match reports. The Herald has no sigcov. Also there is WP:BLP1E because he wasn't getting any sigcov before coming out either. Dougal18 (talk) 12:58, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Food For Thought (artwork)[edit]

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Lack of notability. I'd redirect this to the perp's page, but there is not anything about this work there. Searches throw up zip. TheLongTone (talk) 12:34, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jason Fuller[edit]

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Lack of notability. All but one of the sources are about the company he worked for; the remaining on is merely a list entry and does not, imo, go any way whatsoever to establishing notability. TheLongTone (talk) 12:25, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: "37th richest person" isn't quite notable. Sources are about the company he sold, so don't contribute to his notability, outside of any other sourcing... There is nothing that I find about this person. The company could perhaps be notable, this individual isn't. Oaktree b (talk) 13:26, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Assignment (TV program)[edit]

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Tagged for lack of references since 2017. No good hits on GBooks, GNews and Gsearch. GNews Archives has mentions of the program but it is because Teodoro Locsin Jr., one of its hosts, was running for congress. Weak Redirect to List_of_programs_broadcast_by_ABS-CBN#Current_affairs as assignment is quite a common title. --Lenticel ^(talk) 09:37, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Natasha Khan (Pakistani singer)[edit]

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The subject does not fulfill the criteria WP:MUSICBIO nor does their coverage satisfy the basic WP:GNG. A significant portion of the sources referenced lack reliability as per WP:RS while the rest are merely namechecks. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 12:09, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jormungandr (roller coaster)[edit]

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Probably either delete, or merge to Drayton Manor Resort due to lack of SIGCOV. Cleo Cooper (talk) 06:34, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, what kind of improvements would need to be made? Sorry this is my first page so not 100% sure if its ok but tried to mimic layouts and information of other rides. Thanks Maddisongiselle (talk) 21:08, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Maddisongiselle: The most important thing is finding more coverage of the coaster in reliable published sources. Do you know of stories about Jormungandr (or Buffalo Coaster) in newspapers, books, magazines or other web sources? Toughpigs (talk) 21:16, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You did good work. Please read what @Toughpigs noted. Cleo Cooper (talk) 23:28, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Romaisa Khan[edit]

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The subject does not meet criteria outlined in the relevant WP:NACTOR as well basic WP:GNG. No evidence indicating significant roles in notable films, etc. Merely being in a film or TV series does not make one Inherently notable. Created by a sockpuppet —Saqib (talk | contribs) 11:33, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. In addition to the citations to articles focused on Khan published through nation-wide Pakistani news outlets that are currently cited in the article, I also saw coverage and analysis of her influence in an article from the European Journal of Management and Business Economics (DOI:10.1108/EJMBE-08-2022-0270). Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 23:57, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Let's evaluate each and every reference cited in the BLP.
- Daily Pakistan WP:PROMO/tabloid journalism, Daily Pakistan is not reliable for establishing WP:N.
- ARY News The "web desk" byline doesn't meet reliability criteria for news organizations in Pakistan.
- 24 News HD Such sensational interviews aren't sufficient for establishing WP:N.
- Al Jazeera Acceptable source, but this source alone doesn't establish WP:N, No significant/in-depth coverage.
- Urdu Point Not a WP:RS according to criteria for news organizations in Pakistan.
- Oyeyeah - Clearly unreliable and unacceptable source
- The Nation Acceptable source but it only verifies role. No significant/in-depth coverage.
- Mag The Weekly Questionable source but also only verifies role. No significant/in-depth coverage.
- Daily Pakistan Only verifies role, Daily Pakistan is not reliable for establishing WP:N.
- Dawn Images WP:RS but only confirms receipt of a non-notable award
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Azhar Mashwani[edit]

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The subject evidently falls short of meeting WP:POLITICIAN and doesn't appear to satisfy the basic WP:GNG. This BLP was created by a SPA InamAleem990 (talk · contribs) and subsequently, the BLP was moved from the draft NS to the main NS. Much of the press coverage he received occurred during his detention, which may not be enduring enough to establish WP:N. Also see Draft:Azhar Qazi Mashwani. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 11:40, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KEEP. This, this, this, this, this indicates that the subjected person is notable in Pakistan as his kidnapping issue is widely covered by Pakistani media. If not a notable one, why too much outrage over his kidnapping issue? --Twinkle1990 (talk) 16:14, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So as I mentioned in my nom. above, a significant portion of the press coverage he received stemmed from his detention/kidnapping but this is not be substantial enough to establish WP:N. Describing himself as a social media activist, it's understandable that his detention would attract some media attention. However, does this attention render him notable enough for a Wikipedia BLP? Likely not. Furthermore, considering that this BLP was created by SPA - possibly by the subject themselves and was created in a questionable manner by moving an unapproved draft to the main NS, we shouldn't consider its inclusion based solely on insufficient press coverage that fails to meet even basic WP:GNG. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 16:29, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Creation by SPA is another issue. You must take it to WP: SPI as you have accused the page creator as SPA. Being rational, I don't find any issue to entertain this AfD. Excuse me if I missed somewhere. Fair is fair. So we should come to the rational AfD discussion. Twinkle1990 (talk) 17:40, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The coverage you're referring to was published in March 2023, coinciding with the subject's detention. According to our policy, individuals known solely in connection with a single event typically don't merit an BLP. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 17:54, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Edward T. Jackson[edit]

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Non-notable academic, without a lasting claim to relevance for the general public. Sadads (talk) 11:54, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep -- Clearly meets WP:NPROF criterion 3 as an elected member of the Royal Society of Arts.Central and Adams (talk) 15:45, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
FRSA definitely does not pass #C3. It is (currently at least) the sort of fellowship given to paid subscribers as a way of letting them express that they are interested in the arts. It is not the sort of fellowship given only to people with significant academic accomplishments. See the description of what it means at Royal Society of Arts § Fellowship. This has come up repeatedly before but unfortunately I do not know of a good link where that past wisdom has been collected. —David Eppstein (talk) 04:27, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: He's a senior research fellow at a Canadian University [1], I'm not sure if that passes PROF notability. Carleton is a mid-level Canadian university in Ottawa. Oaktree b (talk) 13:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I was hoping the Citizenship medal would get some coverage, but I can only find his name in a list of winners. I don't see notability due to a lack of sourcing. If the chair position in my question above makes him notable, I'll revisit my !vote. Oaktree b (talk) 13:34, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

York Housing Association[edit]

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York Housing Association no longer exists and it appears that it was only ever one of many housing associations serving the Yorkshire area. It merged in 2022 with Leeds and Yorkshire Housing Association to form 54North - now (May 2024)a subsidiary of Karbon Homes (https://54northhomes.co.uk/about-us/). The page would need completely rewritten - but probably better (if it proved notable) to create a new page based on Karbon Homes. Newhaven lad (talk) 12:07, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Even if it has been merged into another association, the references in the article show that it is notable. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 15:31, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Sustainable public bus transport in Barcelona[edit]

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Article was tagged a month ago as needing cleanup, but hasn't been cleaned up yet. It reads more like an essay/presentation. I suggest merging to Transport in Barcelona as this may not meet the notability guidelines, and the only sources are from TMB and Barcelona's official page. Toadette^Edit! 10:47, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2009 Peshawar judicial complex bombing[edit]

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No lasting coverage or impact to meet WP:EVENT. LibStar (talk) 10:12, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kanako Maeda[edit]

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Sources exist, but not enough significance. Doesn't appear to meet WP:NACTOR / WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 06:37, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Darby[edit]

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Could not find evidence that the article passes WP:GNG J2m5 (talk) 09:37, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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UW Aquilae[edit]

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Does not meet WP:NASTRO and therefore not WP:GNG; hardly any coverage in reliable sources. Article likely only exists on the basis of it being a very large star. SpaceImplorerExplorerImplorer 09:33, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CU Note: The main author was a sock - it would have been a candidate for G5 deletion had Ozzie10aaaa not done a fair bit of tidying up on the article - their thoughts on its retention or otherwise would probably be relevant. Girth Summit _(blether) 09:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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keep there are sources that indicate its notable per [2],--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:12, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jolyon Stern[edit]

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Basically no notability. The only non-primary source which is about him is very short. The creator of the article has a COI, featuring an article about the company in their userpage. Testeraccount101 (talk) 08:31, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Manini (1979 film)[edit]

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Fails GNG. Sources in article and found in BEFORE do not meet WP:SIRS addressing the subject directly and indepth. Found listings, interviews, nothing that addresses the subject indepth meeting WP:SIGCOV. // Timothy :: talk 08:32, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Redirect to List_of_Kannada_films_of_1979. Film does exist but the page has poor unreliable sources. Not much can be found other than on imdb and watchable link on Amazon Prime Video. RangersRus (talk) 12:49, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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List of mathematical theories[edit]

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WP:INDISCRIMINATE: This list seems aimed to list all articles having "theory" in their title. It present at the same level some wide areas of mathematics (set theory) and some very specialized method (Iwasawa theory). So, it does not contain any relevant encyclopedic content. D.Lazard (talk) 08:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. The nominator is saying that WP:LSC is not satisfied in a meaningful way. Having "theory" included in the title was probably good enough in 2004, when the list page was first created. The list is hardly complete: sieve theory isn't there, for example. While mathematicians recognise as "theory" any coherent area with enough definitions, results and characteristic ideas, this kind of theory is nothing like a scientific theory. So the list may be of little or no help to non-mathematicians. I would suggest first a division by subject headings, such as "theories in topology". I mean, this is potentially a useful list, just as a list of problems or a list of theorems would be, but there should be more explanation and apparatus. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:14, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment. For having this article, we must have a sourced definition of the concept of a mathematical theory; the unsourced three lines of Mathematical theory are far to be sufficients. Moreover, in mathematics, some other words are used with a similar meaning, such as "geometry", "algebra", "calculus", and "analysis". For example, projective geometry means "projective-space theory"; commutative algebra stands for "commutative-ring theory", to be compared with ring theory, which deals with non-necessarily commutative rings; integral calculus stand for "theory of integrals"; real analysis stands for "theory of real functions". So, without a reliably sourced definition of the concept of a mathematical theory, this article is pure original synthesis. D.Lazard (talk) 11:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's a reasonable argument, but I would like to see it on Talk:List of mathematical theories because there is plenty to say. To use your examples, axiomatic set theory is a number of choices of axiomatic theory, while Iwasawa theory was originally "Iwasawa's analogue of the Jacobian", which John Coates renamed, and over the course of half a century became a major subfield of algebraic number theory, which is not an axiomatic theory so much as the study of algebraic number fields. To be really helpful, this sort of information, including the genesis of a theory, should be tabulated. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, but rename to list of mathematical theories and subfields. Such a list could have sections for eponymous theories such as Morse theory and Iwasawa theory, and for other special cases. The distinction between commutative algebra and the subfield of ring theory dealing with commutative rings is that commutative algebra is also concerned with modules over such rings. That is seen in the way the earlier name ideal theory was revised, modules over a ring being a generalisation of ideals in a ring, an innovation in the school of Emmy Noether. The list has been harmless enough for 20 years. No need to delete, when we can adjust the scope a bit. Charles Matthews (talk) 08:45, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment : I looked at that list, but it seems more like a category than an article. For example, wikipedia has a Category:Duality theories. --SilverMatsu (talk) 16:36, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jeff Unaegbu[edit]

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I came about this article during clean up and saw it's contains a bit vague and non verifiable content. Taking into cleaning up, I became tired at the line seeing almost if not all the sources lacks editorial guidelines, perhaps doesn't go with our policy and guidelines for reliable sources.

On the other hand, apart from the quality percentage of primary sources linking to book that were self published in the platforms such as Amazon, etc., the article generally doesn't meet WP:GNG, no WP:SIGCOV, and it contains a bit hoaxes that were made (those like references/acclaims which I have removed when cleaning part of the article). The article in general doesn't conform with Wikipedia's inclusion for authors, journalist too—since he edited a magazine and has written for some magazines per the article. Lacks verifiable source and seem looking like a advert/promotional/vaguely constructed source, and more.

The books he wrote doesn't meet our guidelines for books, so we may try redirecting or WP:PRESERVE albeit there is nothing to be preserved here. I also discovered the previous AFD that reads 'no consensus', and it seems there were no improvement or rather say; the previous AFD seeking for clean up which I've did to some part and found no substantial need for the inclusion of this article. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:53, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I once looked at this article and realized that it was created when some of the links verifying some information were not yet dead links. It was created in 2010 or so. For such kind of articles, caution is required. I saw that he was mentioned by the Nigerian author, Chimamanda Adichie in the New Yorker Magazine and he was involved in creating the Occupy Nigeria protests online. There is also some newspaper articles (see Newswatch) on his writings, especially his poem on Lagos, said to be the longest metrical poem by a Nigerian. I think it needs serious clean up and I may help to find his recent activities. Royalrumblebee (talk) 16:28, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Royalrumblebee, dead links doesn't mean anything. There is the Wayback machine for saving pages to archives. While you argue about being mentioned by notable Nigerian writers, it's not a criteria for notability. Almost all the references are links to his publications and things about him were written from a PR which is no shadowed to the eye. In any case, provide me with the links that credibly show this article meets notability. — Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Ok. I found some of his academic publications, including two in JSTOR. But I will look for articles about him, and really- I share your opinion about making sure articles meet notability to remain in this encyclopaedia. Note: see https://orcid.org/0000-0001-6285-4800 Royalrumblebee (talk) 11:08, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Royalrumblebee, that can't be a source. It's a database. — Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 20:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Oh ok @SafariScribe. I see The Punch as a reliable Nigerian newspaper and it talked about him as a celebrity in depth here (https://punchng.com/nigerian-entertainers-born-october-1/). I also see Daily Trust as another reliable Nigerian newspaper and it told the in-depth story of how he and other two writers (Gimba Kakanda and Richard Ali created the Occupy Nigeria group that online-remotely organized the protests in Nigeria in 2012 (https://dailytrust.com/the-occupants-of-nigerias-harmattan/). I also see Newswatch (Nigeria) as a reliable Nigerian newspaper made a full page review of his book and it states in its first line as well as in details later that "Jeff Unaegbu's This Lagos Na Wa has set a record as the longest poem written by a Nigerian! (https://web.archive.org/web/20120504135846/http://www.newswatchngr.com/editorial/prime/bob/10326094437.htm). Other reliable newspapers that mentioned him only in passing are the American magazine The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/notes-on-grief);
  
  This Day here (https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2020/09/15/james-nwoye-adichie-1932-2020);
  
  Daily Post (Nigeria) here (https://dailypost.ng/2014/05/02/ekweremadu-donates-transformer-nsukka-community/);
  
  There are many more, but less reliable links that mentioned him in depth such as this (https://www.gistmania.com/talk/topic,61413.0.html). I have already inserted in the article his direct activities as a journalist reporting for Vanguard (Nigeria).
  
  My honest opinion is that inexperienced editors added a lot of unreliable links such as amazon over the reliable ones and so the article only needs serious clean up. I have seen articles in Wikipedia held by just one reference that is not as reliable as the ones I saw on this article. I have included the reliable links above already too. Thanks. Royalrumblebee (talk) 04:32, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Royalrumblebee, all these sources doesn't link or explained the article like one. For example, a source can say "John Doe is a Nigerian writer who was awarded an MFR by the president of the country. He hasbeen recognized in .....". Then another days "John Doe said he was awarded an MFR by president Doe. In a speech by the president, the world revognised many people and John Doe, standing at the outside asked who is the president." In both sources, the first one seems to he verifiable, significantly covered albeit requires multiple confirmation. It also was taking about John Doe,while the second was taking about an event he attended while giving much view on the president. The thing about John Doe was reported by him—so it's not verifiable. I believe this can help though not broadly covered. Thanks! — Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 15:23, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table: prepared by User:Reading Beans
https://punchng.com/nigerian-entertainers-born-october-1/		A reliable national daily in Nigeria	The source discusses the subject directly and in detail	✔ Yes
https://dailytrust.com/the-occupants-of-nigerias-harmattan/		A national daily that is has majority of readers from Northern Nigeria	This is an interview-like article talking about #OccupyNigeria and not necessarily about this subject	✘ No
https://web.archive.org/web/20120504135846/http://www.newswatchngr.com/editorial/prime/bob/10326094437.htm	?	The source is a major newspaper	~ The article mentions the subject briefly, but does not offer much detail; talks mainly about the book	? Unknown
https://www.gistmania.com/talk/topic,61413.0.html	This is an interview	Gistmania is a gossip blog without any editorial started		✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

The table above was prepared in response to Royalrumblebee. If we want to talk about book reviews, maybe, someone should write an article about the book itself. With the sources I see, the entry does not meet the general notability guidelines. Best, Reading Beans 14:11, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Artur Orzech[edit]

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Seems to be a WP:RUNOFTHEMILL reality show host. Fails WP:GNG.178.164.179.49 (talk) 06:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2024 Daraa bombing[edit]

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WP:NSUSTAINED, WP:NEVENT, WP:NOTNEWS. Sources on this found in search engine are all on bombing day with no other event afterwards. Toadette^Edit! 08:11, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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1905 (film)[edit]

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This film was canceled before it even began filming (like happens to many other films). This article does not meet the threshold for notability stated in WP:NFF. Gonnym (talk) 13:53, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The failure of the production received a lot of significant coverage from reliable independent media. A redirect to the article about the director should be considered anyway. Absolutely opposed to deletion. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC) (added 4 sources, there are more).[reply]
You mean that it received the same one paragraph about the production being canceled because the company being bankrupt. All valid information on the non-exiting Prenom H article or as you say, a one line mention on Kiyoshi Kurosawa's page (which it already is). Gonnym (talk) 16:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure I understand your comment. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Selective merge into the page for either Kiyoshi Kurosawa or Tony Leung Chiu-wai. It looks like there was a short flurry of coverage about the film and its cancellation, but I don't see where there's been any true long-term coverage about this. The best I could find was this, which only gave it kind of a brief mention. The thing with cancelled productions is that the guidelines is looking for quite a lot of coverage. Even the infamous Superman Lives wasn't deemed to be notable enough for its own article. I think this could be covered in a few sentences on either Kurosawa or Leung's articles at most. Perhaps an "impact" section at Senkaku Islands dispute, if doable? ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 18:03, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A decent example of what an article about notable cancelled film would look like sources-wise would be Akira (planned film). That's a cancelled film that's been kicking around for decades and still gets some coverage now and again, despite it being in near permanent development hell. It also survived two AfDs, although I'll note that the last one was divided on whether or not it should have its own article. Something like this film, where there's more or less just a handful of coverage, just isn't enough. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 18:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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John Bartlett (racing driver)[edit]

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Notability not demonstrated. I find a couple of passing references to Bartlett in reliable sources, but nothing substantial. See discussion at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#John_Bartlett_(racing_driver) Dweller (talk) Old fashioned is the new thing! 08:00, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Doesn't appear to meet WP:NMOTORSPORT. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 08:31, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Mehak Malik[edit]

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Does not satisfy WP:NBIO nor WP:NMODEL. Entirely unsourced. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 07:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The BLP previously included references, but they seem to have been deleted. However, I agree that the subject may not meet the WP:GNG. --—Saqib (talk | contribs) 08:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unable to find any good sources for this individual. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 10:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The [e]ntirely unsourced claim in the OP seems to have been made based on a version of the article that existed after it had been blanked by an IP. There do seem to be sources, and I am presuming good faith about the coverage in sources written in a language I am not able to read (as notability can be provided via non-English sources). I have also found coverage of Malik in the Journal of Media Studies and the Journal of Economics. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 21:00, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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AB Aviation Flight 1103[edit]

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Per WP:NOTNEWS. Fails WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE and WP:EVENTCRIT. No evidence of lasting effects. The last news report related to the event was AB aviation losing its license (French). Aviationwikiflight (talk) 03:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - once again, with your logic, most flights with articles ex. Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 708 should be deleted because it doesn't have any continued coverage? There has also been 13 fatalities, i can't tell if this was a sarcastic nomination but whatever it is, this is Abuse of AFD. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeekyAviation (talk • contribs) 03:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is neither sarcastic nor an abuse of AfD, this is following the given wikipedia guidelines and interpreting them so as to whether we keep these articles or not.

After 2022, there hasn't any news article covering this accident. Does not meet the event criteria. It's not even sure whether an investigation has been launched. There haven't been any reports of changes in the aviation sector failing WP:LASTING.

Instead of typing keep, you should go read some of the wikipedia guidelines iI highlighted. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 03:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
i did read it. also from what im seeing from your understanding, you'd need to go nominate for deletion plenty of other articles. you can find it here. GeekyAviation (talk) 03:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh why, thank you so much. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 04:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
you're welcome GeekyAviation (talk) 04:06, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Heh, not as bad as it may seem. I clicked 20(!) randlom articles from the list and hit not a single page as bad as we are discussing here. - Altenmann >talk 04:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
i don't understand what you are saying, please come and reply once you are back from the bar and sober, thanks so much! GeekyAviation (talk) 04:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree to a certain degree. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 04:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
redirect to AB_Aviation#Accidents_and_incidents, which says it all. - Altenmann >talk
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Weak keep I did find some lasting coverage here and here. It was a commercial passenger crash with fatalities, which are usually kept - the problem here is that it happened in the Comoros, so coverage is difficult to search for, but can still be improved. SportingFlyer T·C 05:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Even then, those were singular seperate pieces of articles published in 2022. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:11, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect - given the small size of AB Aviation, the four sentences can be moved there. The "losing its license" part will make more sense with context there. tedder (talk) 05:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Even though it was only a Cessna 208, the company operating the flight also operated ERJ 145 and EMB 120 aircraft, so it wasn't a typical charter company of a couple of guys with a plane. The accident led to the revocation of the airline's operating license (link to article included in nominator's statement), and a year later, it was still in the news as family members of the crash victims were still in the courts seeking restitution (2022 article, in French here, 2023 article, in French here) In addition, the crash resulted in Comorian civil aviation changing aviation rules to prohibit the rental and chartering of single-engine aircraft for commercial flights (see article, in French here), so the accident has lasting effect in the form of regulatory changes. There is a consensus that accidents of commercial flights that lead to regulatory changes or safety changes meet notability standards, and I believe that's met here. RecycledPixels (talk) 20:08, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would agree more towards a merge as, on itself, the event isn't notable enough for a standalone article. What you mentioned, the changing of aviation rules isn't solving the problem, it just makes aviation in the Comoros more complicated. If this accident were to have lasting effects, it would have to have come from the investigation itself except no investigation was ever started so actual rule changes which would help develop aviation safety will probably never happen.

The losing of license, rule changes, court proceedings can all be merged with the airline article. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 02:08, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
13 fatalities isn't notable? GeekyAviation (talk) 02:17, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There was clearly sustained local coverage of a commercial flight, this clearly qualifies for an article using our sourcing rules. SportingFlyer T·C 02:47, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see evidence of sustained local coverage after the first week to month. Only 1/4 of the articles linked here provide some sort of analysis. Even then, the said analysis is on the aftermath of the event, not the event itself.

3/4 of the articles linked in this page were mostly brief bursts of coverage with brief content.

Outside of these four articles, the term AB Aviation Flight 1103 isn't common so you have to write a short description of the event in french to actually get to the same topic. Even then, the results given link you to Yemenia Flight 626 or other aviation events. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 13:38, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect I agree with tedder´s proposal, that way the link in the aviation accidents and incidents in 2022 category will redirect to the airline page instead.--Voceta (talk) 07:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Office of the World Bank, London[edit]

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Contested PROD of an individual office of the World Bank. No other office has its own page. Clearly fails WP:ORGCRIT and WP:GNG. AusLondonder (talk) 13:00, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge or redirect which is what I said should happen when I deprodded this. I'm just not certain what the best target is. Thryduulf (talk) 13:44, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the proposer of a merge or redirect cannot identify a target, that's a rather significant problem. You deprodded the article but failed to suggest a credible alternative to deletion. In that case, the article should be deleted. AusLondonder (talk) 13:47, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect - Altenmann >talk 03:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, merge what and to where? AusLondonder (talk) 08:17, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete article merely confirms it exists. Fails GNG and not worth redirecting/merging. LibStar (talk) 00:00, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to the building that it's located in - originally assumed it was about the building, but it's about an office in the building which clearly fails WP:GNG. SportingFlyer T·C 18:57, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article is wrong, the World Bank no long has an office at Millbank Tower. AusLondonder (talk) 06:33, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Millbank Tower#Occupants as WP:ATD - plausible search term to existing article (unless I'm missing something bleeding obvious)? Ingratis (talk) 08:20, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why would we redirect to their former office location? That makes absolutely no sense. ATD doesn't mean we can never delete an article and should instead create incorrect and pointless redirects just so we don't have to ever delete anything. AusLondonder (talk) 12:48, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Murder of İbrahim Oktugan[edit]

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Delete per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:CRIME. This specific case isn't notable enough for a standalone article, nor does it have any international coverage that I could find. CycloneYoris ^talk! 06:18, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Greg Flynn (businessman)[edit]

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Most news seems to be about his company Flynn Group and its restaurants/ acquisitions rather than him. He was briefly in the news regarding the California minimum wage issues and seems to be only known for that. Shinadamina (talk) 05:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep There is substantial coverage out there about Flynn. The article just has to be expanded. Thriley (talk) 13:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I agree with the nominator, most of the articles are about his company or are primary with quotations. The Forbes article and QSR Magazine seem to be the best coverage, but they both contain lot's of quotations and based on primary info. Hkkingg (talk) 15:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep https://www.forbes.com/sites/amyfeldman/2016/08/24/the-super-sizer-how-greg-flynn-became-americas-largest-restaurant-franchisee-with-1-9b-revenues/ shows ample coverage just about him. https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/how-restaurateur-navigating-pandemic talks about him. Dream Focus 18:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Forbes article is OK, but Stanford is an interview. Yolandagonzales (talk) 20:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I found this. https://www.entrepreneur.com/franchises/greg-flynn-owns-1245-restaurants-and-makes-2-billion-a/333187 Lot of detail about him. Dream Focus 19:17, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Entrepreneur article is almost entirely based on quotations, so it is the same as interview and considered unreliable. Rustypenguin (talk) 09:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is plenty written about him, it not just quotes. And interviews are fine for confirming notability. A reliable source thought the person notable enough to write about and/or interview. Interviews are only not seen as reliable for content in an article because they are a primary source. Dream Focus 12:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please share where you have seen that policy that states interviews are fine for notability? I saw someone making this same argument once before, but all participating editors/admins decided there was not such a policy. Rustypenguin (talk) 20:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete - Forbes articles looks OK. Stanford is an interview. Most other sources are about the company. Notability is not inherited. We should consider making a page for his company The Flynn Group. Yolandagonzales (talk) 20:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The company this individual founded, not the founder himself, is what is notable here. A review of the citations here only shows there are few that provide in-depth coverage of this individual. Zakaria ښه راغلاست (talk) 23:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Only 1 source is in-depth which is Forbes. The rest are interviews or passing mentions. I vote to delete. Rustypenguin (talk) 09:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Agree with above editors. Although there is some news coverage, they are not the right type of coverage. They are mostly interviews, quotations and primary. Perfectstrangerz (talk) 16:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Greg-Flynn-Owns-1-245-Restaurants-and-Makes-2-13900429.php SFGate gives significant coverage about him and his accomplishments. Dream Focus 18:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The SFGate Article also contains many quotations and appears to be based on an interview. It is unfortunate that wiki policies do not count interviews towards notability, but we must follow the policies. Rustypenguin (talk) 20:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see Wikipedia:Interviews#Notability. I don't see anywhere against interviews being used to determine notability. Coverage is coverage. A reliable source thought they notable enough to cover, then that counts. Dream Focus 01:55, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep So, the sources are really obvious and are already in the article. I was planning on adding these really in depth and obvious indicators of notability to the article, but they were already there, leaving me perplexed.

These sources are entirely about his life. Yes, they're also going to talk about the company he founded that literally is named after him. The fact that he founded such a successful business is what makes him notable. And, yes, news articles about people are going to include quotes from them. That doesn't make them interview articles. An interview is an article that is entirely just question and response. None of these are that. The claims made by those above would be equivalent to saying Jeff Bezos isn't notable because any article about him is also going to discuss Amazon. It's nonsense. That's not how notability works. Silver seren^C 23:24, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep enough of the sources have in depth coverage of Greg Flynn. Zenomonoz (talk) 02:53, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shuja Asad[edit]

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Another BLP on a non-notable actor created by BeauSuzanne (talk · contribs) who has a dubious editing history. The subject does not meet criteria outlined in the relevant WP:NACTOR as well basic WP:GNG. No evidence indicating significant roles in notable films, TV dramas, etc. Merely being in a film or TV drama does not make one Inherently notable. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 18:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Based on the following source assessment. On its face, the subject appears notable based on the number of references, but clearly fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. Maybe after the upcoming film he is supposedly in there will be more press but WP:TOOSOON at this point in time. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

YouTube, labeled as "Something Haute" on the page but it is in fact NOT that publication. it is simply on their YouTube channel. Not a reliable source.

Social Diary, and interview and clear promotional piece.

Galaxy Hollywood, Outside of this being unreliable (blog, no editorial oversight), it only verifies his role in a film. Verification does not equal notability.

Dawn, as with above, it verifies a role but nothing substantial about the subject himself.

YouTube, another YouTube video masquerading as a reliable source. It is the channel for FUCHSIA Magazine which I cannot tell if it is a reliable source but the YouTube content definitely is not.

Ary News, translated byline as "news desk" indicates clear WP:NEWSORGINDIA and not reliable for notability.

Gulf News, contributor tabloid content that can be purchased on Upwork. Not reliable.

DND, verifies a role but nothing substantial about him.

Galaxy Hollywood, verifies role, but nothing substantial about him.

Mag The Weekly, willing to bet this is also unreliable if I did, but on its face it is a promotional interview with several subjects. Not reliable for at least notability.

24 News HD, "News Desk" byline which is clear NEWSORGINDIA. Not reliable.

Ary News, "Web Desk" byline, more NEWSORGINDIA. Not Reliable.

Ary News, English version, "web desk" byline, more NEWSORGINDIA. Not reliable.

YouTube, many issues but besides being YouTube, this is the channel of HUM TV meaning nothing would be considered independent.

Mag The Weekly, another one from this publication where I do not believe would be a reliable publication. Regardless, byline of "Mag The Weekly" indicates NEWSORGINDIA so not reliable.

The News, another that verifies a role, but nothing significant about the subject.

Keep Shuja is a notable actor. Gulf news has written about Shuja it also covers many other news as well it is used in Arab countries and Something Haute is a Magazine just like Aurora Magazine Dawn.(BeauSuzanne (talk) 07:03, 1 May 2024 (UTC))[reply]
As the creator of this BLP, you've to provide references to support claims made about her significant roles. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 09:25, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gulf News is a paid placement and falls under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. I can go to Upwork and have an article published in Gulf News right now that outlines the status of this AfD. It is literally that easy! --CNMall41 (talk) 18:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per @CNMall41 2600:1700:103A:D800:3D53:1D07:BF86:3DEB (talk) 17:13, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@2600:1700:103A:D800:3D53:1D07:BF86:3DEB: See WP:ATA —Saqib (talk | contribs) 19:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All of a sudden, an unknown IP address with just 3 contributions is voting delete and supporting the nominator. Strange. Libraa2019 (talk) 08:20, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have a great explanation for that as the same happened to a recent nomination I made. Although I will AGF (or at least as much as saying "strange"). --CNMall41 (talk) 20:56, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shuja's role Sardar Barlas Khan in popular drama Khaie was very well received among the viewers.[3] Some background about how Shuja started his carrer.[4](BeauSuzanne (talk) 15:26, 3 May 2024 (UTC))[reply]
Keep Has sufficient coverage in reliable news sources like Daily Times and Gulf News. Both links are mentioned below.

Daily Times

Gulf News

Also he is mentioned in many reliable sources like [5], [6] Libraa2019 (talk) 17:43, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As CNMall41 pointed out, Gulf News's coverage is considered a paid placement and falls under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. The other sources don't delve into the subject with the required depth as outlined in WP:GNG to establish WP:N. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 18:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gulf News is nowhere mentioned in WP:NEWSORGINDIA and India and Pakistan are different countries if you dont know. Libraa2019 (talk) 19:50, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is getting old and seems to be a WP:CIR issue. NEWSORGINDIA says, "Examples of sponsored content include supplements published by" - Note my emphasis on "examples." It does not say "these ARE the publications" or that the example list is inclusive. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:28, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would be happy to go through other pages and point out where you have used publications listed as examples in NEWSORGINDIA if you like. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:30, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that would be useful for the closing admin to make a decision. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 20:04, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't need to go far. The creation of Abu Aleeha shows this and this which were the first two references I checked. I am also concerned based on the permission of the image used on that page as well. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:36, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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British International School of Kuala Lumpur[edit]

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Article was AfDed in 2014 and closed as no consensus per a part WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES which subsequently was repealed in 2017. Since the previous nom, no new sources have come to light. Probably best if we redirect to Nord Anglia Education. Allan Nonymous (talk) 04:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I agree with the redirect to Nord Anglia Education. Bduke (talk) 05:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Nord Anglia Education. I have searched but cannot find information to demonstrate a pass of WP:GNG. The school is reasonably new and it may become notable in the future, but the redirect will preserve page history should that happen. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:42, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ekaterina Zaikina[edit]

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Absolutely fails WP:NSKATE. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The subject definitely fails WP:NSKATE and I am struggling to find any coverage at all. For reference, the Cyrillic script transliteration of her name seems to be Екатерина Заикина. JTtheOG (talk) 00:23, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Agreed that it fails WP:NSKATE. Further, de minimis test of notability appears to be their participation in World Juniors, which doesn't seem to have any RS coverage. - Cara Wellington (talk)

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Sylvan Anderton[edit]

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sportsperson stub. fails general notability guideline. ltb d l (talk) 09:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment – The player appears to have a substantial number of appearances for Reading and Chelsea. I think it's a matter of WP:V. Svartner (talk) 14:06, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep - clearly notable. Over 200 appearances in England's professional football league (verified by the Neil Brown source in the article sas well as sources like this), while a quick Google search brings up things like this and this which clearly indicate historical (read: offline) coverage. A lazy nomination. Giant Snowman 18:18, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
are those football cards? ltb d l (talk) 12:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
...yes? Giant Snowman 07:43, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
football cards aren't reliable sources ltb d l (talk) 11:01, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Has that ever been decided? I'd think if it were by a reputable company it would be reliable. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:44, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
that's crazy ltb d l (talk) 06:19, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Football cards being reliable sources made me literally laugh out loud. AusLondonder (talk) 07:45, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why wouldn't a reputable card company be reliable? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:01, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
amazing. 10/10. no notes. ltb d l (talk) 06:34, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:40, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
At no point have I claimed that football cards are reliable. I was merely suggesting that appearing on football cards - and, if you had bothered to Google him, all the other historical coverage at photo archives etc. - suggests there is coverage out there, which research by others below has supported. Giant Snowman 18:04, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep With the amount of games he played and the clubs he played for seems good enough, combined with GS sources above and probably much more WP:OFFLINESOURCES, this needs improvement for sure. Govvy (talk) 18:49, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep More than 200 professional appearances for teams with deep, deep histories and legacies. This is very obvious. Clearly notable. Anwegmann (talk) 23:02, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails GNG and lacks SIGCOV. An actual check of the newspapers.com archive finds nothing but mentions in match reports/transfer stories. He went on to play cricket for Bryant Rose Cricket Club and won the raffle four years in a row there but that is trivial stuff. NFOOTBALL has been depreciated since 2022 so any Keeps based on number of games played must be ignored by the closer. He isn't notable either for playing for some "notable" clubs per NOTINHERITED. Dougal18 (talk) 10:37, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I frequently see editors citing Wikipedia:But there must be sources! in AfDs for footballers with dozens of international caps. I'd like to see the same standard applied to footballers with "over 200 appearances in England's professional football league". How do football cards indicate offline coverage, @GiantSnowman:? As Dougal18 points out so far it has not been demonstrated that SIGCOV exists. Robby.is.on (talk) 11:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Mostly per Dougal18's reasoning. Footballers are not inherently notable - they need to meet WP:GNG. This is clear community consensus. Simply asserting that an individual played for notable teams is not a suitable AfD argument. If nothing can be found in newspaper archives, then he's not notable. Another point is this is little more than an infobox and a pseudo-biography. AusLondonder (talk) 11:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There seems to be a decent amount of newspaper coverage, although it is mostly brief-ish: see [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13]. An argument could be made for WP:NBASIC, considering he seemed to have significant amount of appearances for prominent clubs. Not sure if that changes anyone's views: @Ltbdl, AusLondonder, Dougal18, and Robby.is.on:? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:26, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good research! Giant Snowman 07:44, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, per Dougal and AusLondoner. Football cards do not contribute to notability at all, and given passing mentions in match reports don't count towards even BASIC for modern players they shouldn't count for old players either. We don't have a single piece of the required IRS SIGCOV, so we have no valid justification for retaining this article. JoelleJay (talk) 21:07, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment He also has a biographical entry in Chelsea The Complete Record: author: Rick Glanvill isbn: 9781909245303 also mentioned in The Little Book of Reading FC - 1920-2008 author: Alan Sedunary isbn: 9781780913711. There maybe more books with biographical information. Govvy (talk) 13:54, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Can you tell us what exactly is in those books? Dougal18 (talk) 14:22, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Glanvill is Chelsea's official historian, he is not an independent source. JoelleJay (talk) 19:03, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reply @JoelleJay: That's not correct, nor is it proper to discredit him. Will you do the same for Historians who went to Oxford and Cambridge and write about those subjects? He is a published author and a reputable one at that. Please don't use this argument ever again on any credited club historian. Govvy (talk) 22:39, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He's literally hired by the club to write about club history. Of course he isn't independent. And if a historian is employed by Oxford to write about Oxford history then they aren't independent either. JoelleJay (talk) 16:56, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JoelleJay: Again you really have no idea, the Chelsea book is independent to the club, published by De Coubertin Books deCoubertin Books is a leading independent publisher, which publishes outstanding non-fiction titles predicated on high editorial and production values. We work with some of the biggest names in sport and sportswriting and our books have been nominated for numerous awards. Being hired by a club doesn't make the book published by the club. Also the link provided says he is the club historian, because he is the top of his field in the history for the club, at no time does that post on the Chelsea page say he is hired directly for them. The Reading book is published by Breedon Books Publishing Co Ltd and not Reading Football Club. These are both independent publishers to the clubs. I really don't understand why you feel these are primary sources when they are not remotely so. Govvy (talk) 21:43, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Being an employee of the club (He has worked for all Chelsea FC's publications and media since 1993 and is the club's official historian.) means the person has a COI with the club, and this applies to material the person publishes through independent publishers (and obviously anything authored by the club would go through an external publisher; it's not like each club has its own book publishing house; the "Official Biography" of Chelsea that he penned ... for the club is through Headline Publishing Group). We'd consider a book authored by a relative of the subject to be non-independent regardless of where it's published; the same applies here. And what part of "the club's official historian", as recorded on the club's website, makes you think he's not working directly for them.....
I didn't say anything about primary sources. I said they are non-independent. JoelleJay (talk) 22:00, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is like arguing that an 'official biographer' of a celebrity should be discredited...nonsense! Giant Snowman 18:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
An official biographer of a celebrity who was hired by that celebrity's talent agency should absolutely be discredited! JoelleJay (talk) 01:11, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Sports cards are reliable sources stat-wise.KatoKungLee (talk) 17:12, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – For the arguments presented so far in the discussion. I see no reason to discredit a club historian, or sports cards, considering that the athlete played in the 50s and 60s. The sources presented by @Govvy demonstrate credibility. Svartner (talk) 21:14, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Credibility of who? Dougal18 (talk) 14:14, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The authors of mentioned books. Svartner (talk) 15:26, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So employees of the football club are somehow exempted from the NSPORT guidance saying Team sites and governing sports bodies are not considered independent of their players if they don't publish directly on the website?
The sports cards are completely trivial stats coverage. Why would they count? JoelleJay (talk) 17:01, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The delete arguments seem a bit WP:IDONTLIKEIT, in their attempts to discredit what seems like reasonable coverage. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 06:26, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tom Freston[edit]

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fails general notability guideline. likely an autobiography. ltb d l (talk) 16:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note Please note that Tfreston (talk · contribs), who purports to be the subject, began to edit the article in July 2016 and has virtually stripped out all of the sources; this is the last edit before they became involved, and this edit from several months ago was the last before the subject stripped out all sources, including about basic biographical information such as children and marriage. This may be a case where COI has to be flagged and the mentioned editor may have to be blocked from editing their own article, which had proper sources before then. @Ltbdl:, can you let me know what you think of what I presented? Nate • (chatter) 18:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Good Lord, they really have removed all of the sources in the article. mer764KCTV5 / Cospaw (He/Him | Talk • Contributions) 19:59, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but restore to pre-COI'd state. With profiles in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and CNBC, he's clearly notable, we just have to keep him from trying to write an autobiography. Jfire (talk) 03:20, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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David Xanatos[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. WP:BEFORE shows that most of the sources were from the film, except this [14]. But, that is not enough for the character. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 04:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The topic does not need to be the main subject to "count" with regard to notability. In my view, the mentioned Polygon article, this IGN article and the appearance in The Tropes of Fantasy Fiction, together with briefer appearances like here, establish enough material and commentary to fulfill the requirements of WP:WHYN and WP:ALLPLOT, and therefore establish notability. Daranios (talk) 07:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge Despite the existence of a great Polygon article for SIGCOV, the character doesn't pass GNG with the demonstrated sources. A compromise would be merging him to a list of characters. The trope of Xanatos Gambit is purely a TVTropes thing and isn't super well-known outside of it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 08:26, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Zxcvbnm: If the trope of Xanatos Gambit is purely a TVTropes thing, then why does it appear in secondary sources, including academic ones? Daranios (talk) 14:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Appearing and getting heavy discussion are two different things. But if the trope is indeed discussed heavily in scholarly sources, it might merit an article on the trope itself. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I don't think it's "discussed heavyly", but it is discussed to some degree. Which again is different from being purely a TVTropes thing in my view. So I think it would be quite fitting to include the trope to a degree within the article here, which in turn means there is enough material to constitute a non-stubby article. Daranios (talk) 14:35, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not voting yet but concurring with Daranios here. If the concept is receiving actual discussion then it is a valid topic to cover in the article, regardless of potential origin. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 13:51, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Apacer[edit]

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Previously deleted and salted as Apacer Technology Inc. No evidence of notability * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:35, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Ng, Celeste See-Pui; Chang, Pei-Chann (2009). "Exploring the Links between Competitive Advantage and Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) Upgrade Decision: A Case Study Approach". In Chou, Shuo-Yan; Trappey, Amy; Pokojski, Jerzy; Smith, Shana (eds.). Global Perspective for Competitive Enterprise, Economy and Ecology: Proceedings of the 16th ISPE International Conference on Concurrent Engineering. London: Springer-Verlag. p. 185. doi:10.1007/978-1-84882-762-2_17. ISBN 978-1-84882-761-5. Retrieved 2024-04-28 – via Google Books.
  The book notes: "Apacer was founded in April 1997. The capital is over ten hundred million US dollars with approximately 500 staff members. The business volume is NTD120 millions in year 2003 and reached NTD140 million in 2004. The head-quarter is situated at the Nankang Software Park, Taipei. The firm currently has offices in USA, Netherlands, France, Tokyo, Middle East, India, Sydney, Hong Kong, Thailand, Singapore and Malaysia. Apacer is a manufacturing company that develops dynamic RAM (DRAM). Apacer offers various types of sale services to its clients based on the size of the order and the size of the client's company."
2. "Apacer Technology Inc. (Taiwan, China)". EMIS. 2024-03-26. Archived from the original on 2024-04-28. Retrieved 2024-04-28.
  The company summary of the report notes: "Apacer Technology Inc. was founded in 1997 and, from its earliest stage, positioned itself to be an agile supplier of DRAM whose primary operations focused on memory modules. The company provides standard DRAM memory modules, which include 128 megabyte (MB), 256MB, 512 MB, 1 gigabyte (GB), 2GB, 4GB and 8GB double data rate (DDR) I, DDR II and DDR III products; DRAM memory modules, which are applied in industrial computers, servers, printers, network products, routers and memory modules; flash memory cards, flash memory drives, multimedia players and digital peripheral products, including moving picture experts group layer-3 audio (MP3) players, flash drives, card readers, solid hard disks, universal serial bus (USB) hubs and USB chargers, among others, as well as embedded flash memory modules. Reliant upon the semiconductor’s complete vertical integration of the memory modules' technical capabilities with its professional marketing services, Apacer successfully created its own global brand and had become the world’s fourth largest memory module manufacturer by 1999. Since its establishment it has set up subsidiaries in the United States, the Netherlands, Japan, Mainland of China, India etc."
3. "Apacer Technology Inc. (Taiwan, China)" [宇瞻科技股份有限公司 (中国台湾地区)] (in Chinese). EMIS. 2024-03-26. Archived from the original on 2024-04-28. Retrieved 2024-04-28.
  The company summary of the report notes: "1997年4月16日，成立企基科技股份有限公司，设立公司于台北市，资本额新台币10,000,000元，为宏基集团转投资公司，提供记忆体模组产品之专业制造商。同年7月，公司地址迁移至台北县汐止市，并更名为宇瞻科技股份有限公司。10月，成立宇瞻美国子公司。1998年1月，龙潭厂区设立。同年2月，成立欧洲子公司。4月，领先推出符合IntelPC100规格的记忆体模组。"
  From Google Translate: "On April 16, 1997, Apacer Technology Inc. was established in Taipei City with a capital of NT$10,000,000. It is a company invested by Acer Group and provides a professional manufacturer of memory module products. In July of the same year, the company's address was moved to Xizhi City, Taipei County, and its name was changed to Apacer Technology Co., Ltd. In October, Apacer's US subsidiary was established. In January 1998, Longtan factory was established. In February of the same year, a European subsidiary was established. In April, it took the lead in launching memory modules that meet Intel PC100 specifications."
4. Chen, Yanni 陳嬿妮 (1998-12-04). "宇瞻科技擦亮APACER招牌挾宏碁集團豐富資源在記憶體模組領域快速崛起" [Apacer Technology Polishes Apacer Brand. Leveraging Acer Group's rich resources to rapidly rise in the field of memory modules.]. Economic Daily News [zh] (in Chinese). p. 54.
  The review notes: "宏碁半導體集團旗下一支專業記憶體模組供應商一宇瞻科技公司，成立才一年半，漸露鋒芒。預期今年營業額將突破2．5億美元，已躍升全球前十大記憶體模組製造商；明年可望營收4億美元，前進全球前五大廠名列，擦亮自有品牌「Apacer」招牌。... 隨著營運版圖的擴大，一年半來宇瞻科技公司已由早期十多人組，增加到現在100多人公司，並在今年7月增設龍潭廠房且在美國、荷蘭都設有分公司，使Apacer記憶體模組新產品研發、生產及行銷能充份掌握。"
  From Google Translate: "Apacer Technology, a professional memory module supplier under the Acer Semiconductor Group, has only been established for a year and a half and is gradually showing its talents. Revenue this year is expected to exceed US$250 million, making it one of the top ten memory module manufacturers in the world. Next year, revenue is expected to reach US$400 million, ranking among the top five manufacturers in the world, and polishing its own brand "Apacer" brand. ... With the expansion of its operating territory, in the past year and a half, Apacer Technology has grown from a team of more than ten people in the early days to more than 100 people now. In July this year, it added a Longtan factory and has branches in the United States and the Netherlands. Apacer memory module new product development, production and marketing can be fully grasped."
5. Cao, Zhengfen 曹正芬 (2000-01-07). "宇瞻搶攻快閃記憶體卡商機網路通訊設備需求增加今年業績目標5,000萬美元" [Apacer seizes flash memory card business opportunities. Demand for network communication equipment increases; this year's performance target is US$50 million]. Economic Daily News [zh] (in Chinese). p. 30.
  The article notes: "宏碁集團轉投資公司宇瞻科技跨足快閃記憶體卡領域，由於網路、通訊設備需求增加，宇瞻將快閃記憶體卡今年業績目標訂為5,000萬美元。 ... 宇瞻為國內記憶體模組廠商，去年宣布跨入快閃記憶體卡領域，由宇瞻向業者購買快閃記憶體，自行組裝快閃記憶體卡。宇瞻當初決定跨足快閃記憶體卡，起意在於供應宏碁集團專用電腦 (XC)之需。"
  From Google Translate: "Acer Group's investment company Apacer Technology has entered the field of flash memory cards. Due to the increase in demand for network and communication equipment, Apacer has set a flash memory card performance target of US$50 million this year. ... Apacer is a domestic memory module manufacturer. Last year, it announced that it would enter the field of flash memory cards. Apacer will purchase flash memory from industry players and assemble the flash memory cards itself. Apacer originally decided to branch out into flash memory cards with the intention of supplying the Acer Group's dedicated computers (XC)."
6. Chen, Yanni 陳嬿妮 (2001-03-08). "宇瞻與聯測簽合作契約" [Apacer signs cooperation contract with Lianchai]. Economic Daily News [zh] (in Chinese). p. 26.
  The article notes: "全球第四大記憶體模組大廠宇瞻科技 (Apacer) 公司昨（7）日宣佈與聯測公司簽訂合作契約 ..."
  From Google Translate: "Apacer, the world's fourth largest memory module manufacturer, announced yesterday (7th) that it had signed a cooperation contract with Lianchai ..."
7. Lin, Maoren 林茂仁 (2004-01-27). "《《數位發燒商品》》宇瞻隨身燒精彩畫面不錯過" ["Digital Fever Products" Apacer burns with you, don’t miss the wonderful pictures]. Economic Daily News [zh] (in Chinese). p. 30.
  The article notes: "宇瞻的「隨身燒CP200」及「Audio Steno MS400隨身碟」兩款數位儲存產品，日前並雙雙獲得第十二屆「台灣精品獎」殊榮，其中「隨身燒CP200」更晉級「國家產品形象獎」，挑戰國家評鑑最高榮譽「國家產品金質獎」。宇瞻「Audio Steno MS400隨身碟」為全球首創相容於MemoryStick及Memory Stick Pro記憶卡的MP3隨身碟，目標鎖定全球超過四千萬人的Memory Stick記憶卡使用者。"
  From Google Translate: "Apacer's two digital storage products, "Portable Burner CP200" and "Audio Steno MS400 Flash Drive", recently both won the 12th "Taiwan Excellence Award". Among them, "Portable Burner CP200" was even promoted to the "National Product Image Award" , challenging the "National Product Gold Award", the highest honor in national evaluation. Apacer's "Audio Steno MS400 flash drive" is the world's first MP3 flash drive compatible with MemoryStick and Memory Stick Pro memory cards, targeting more than 40 million Memory Stick memory card users around the world."
8. Peng, Zihao 彭子豪 (2006-05-18). "宇瞻科技Tango系列隨身碟耍時尚" [Apacer Technology Tango series flash drive is fashionable]. Economic Daily News [zh] (in Chinese). p. E3.
  The article notes: "許久沒推出新作的記憶體模組大廠－宇瞻科技（Apacer）日前推出「Tango」隨身碟系列，受到該公司過去於產品設計上具有不錯的口碑，這次推出的Tango系列在產品外觀上，確實和市場相關產品不同，賣相不差。「Tango」的外觀游走在科技與時尚的邊界，並融合資訊傳輸便利和流行時尚元素，外型硬挺陽剛外，更內建Tango軟體技術，透過「同步資料」的技術，"
  From Google Translate: "Apacer, a major memory module manufacturer that has not launched a new product for a long time, has recently launched the "Tango" flash drive series. Due to the company's good reputation for product design in the past, the Tango series launched this time has a unique appearance in terms of product appearance. It is indeed different from related products in the market, and the appearance is not bad. The appearance of "Tango" walks on the boundary between technology and fashion, and integrates information transmission convenience and popular fashion elements. It has a tough and masculine appearance, and it also has built-in Tango software technology. Through the "synchronization data" technology,"
9. Xu, Mujun 徐睦鈞 (2010-12-28). "宇瞻增加高毛利產品" [Apacer adds high-margin products]. United Evening News [zh] (in Chinese). p. B3.
  The article notes: "準上市記憶體模組股宇瞻科技 (8271)將在明天以每股21元掛牌 ... 宇瞻目前生產DRAM模組的標準型產品營收占70%，藉由徹底落實數字管理，即便在近年DRAM報價數度走弱下，獲利表現仍優於同業；而占營收比重30%的加值型產品毛利率貢獻度較高，未來將持續專注在工業用SSD市場以及數位家庭市場，預計明年加值型事業的營收比重將拉高到40%以上。"
  From Google Translate: "Apacer Technology (8271), a quasi-listed memory module stock, will be listed tomorrow at 21 yuan per share. ... Apacer currently produces 70% of its revenue from standard products of DRAM modules. By thoroughly implementing digital management, its profit performance is still better than that of its peers even when DRAM quotations have weakened several times in recent years; while Apacer accounts for 30% of its revenue. Value-added products have a high contribution to gross profit margin. In the future, they will continue to focus on the industrial SSD market and the digital home market. It is expected that the revenue proportion of value-added businesses will increase to more than 40% next year."
10. Zhou, Pinjun 周品均 (2010-12-29). "宇宇瞻上市漲幅衝3成今天好熱鬧鑫永銓櫃轉市漲0.15元弘憶新上市漲0.1元" [Apacer goes public, gains 30%. It's so lively today. Xinyongquan's new listing rose 0.15 yuan and Hongyi's new listing rose 0.1 yuan.]. United Evening News [zh] (in Chinese). p. B1.
  The article notes: "宇瞻前11月營收118.98億元，前3季稅後淨利2.92億元，每股盈餘(EPS)2.62元，雖然今年第四季動態隨機存取記憶體市況不佳，但宇瞻在毛利較高的加值型產品比重拉升的情況下，法人預期，今年EPS有望挑戰3元水準。... 宇瞻今上市開盤23.05元最高27.9元最低23元成交6460張"
  From Google Translate: "Apacer's revenue in the first November was 11.898 billion yuan, its net profit after tax in the first three quarters was 292 million yuan, and its earnings per share (EPS) was 2.62 yuan. Although the DRAM market conditions were not good in the fourth quarter of this year, Apacer's gross profit was higher With the proportion of value-added products increasing, the legal person expects that this year's EPS is expected to challenge the 3 yuan level. ... Apacer went public today. The opening price was 23.05 yuan, the highest was 27.9 yuan, the lowest was 23 yuan, and 6,460 contracts were traded."
11. Chen, Fuxia 陳復霞 (2017-05-19). "宇瞻科技成立20周年奠基工控第一" [Apacer Technology's 20th Anniversary, Laying the Foundation for the First Place in Industrial Control]. CTimes (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-04-28. Retrieved 2024-04-28.
  The article notes: "宇瞻科技(Apacer)歡慶成立20周年。宇瞻科技1997年創立，以持續打造最佳品質與效能兼具的創新領導產品，屢獲世界級肯定。自2012年起，連續四年蟬聯Gartner評比全球第一工業用固態硬碟供應商，奠基工控市場的領先地位。"
  From Google Translate: "Apacer celebrates its 20th anniversary. Founded in 1997, Apacer Technology continues to create innovative and leading products with the best quality and performance, and has repeatedly won world-class recognition. Since 2012, it has been ranked as the world's No. 1 industrial solid-state drive supplier by Gartner for four consecutive years, establishing its leading position in the industrial control market."
12. Sun, Yuliang 孙玉亮 (2013-01-04). "宇瞻张家騉:服务+创新深挖高利润行业" [Apacer Zhang Jiaqing: Service + Innovation to dig deep into high-profit industries]. ZOL [zh] (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-04-28. Retrieved 2024-04-28.
  The article notes: "Apacer宇瞻科技成立于1997年，初期公司以DRAM模组的专业供货商为定位，将经营聚焦在「记忆存储」。凭着对半导体垂直整合的完整内存模组技术能力与专业营销业务，成功在全球打出Apacer自有品牌，并于1999年成为全球第四大内存模组厂商。企业总部位于中国台湾，在上海设有宇瞻电子（上海）有限公司。此外在美国、欧洲、日本、印度等地设有分公司。"
  From Google Translate: "Apacer Technology was founded in 1997. In the early days, the company positioned itself as a professional supplier of DRAM modules and focused its business on "memory storage." With its complete memory module technology capabilities and professional marketing business in vertically integrating semiconductors, Apacer successfully launched its own brand around the world and became the world's fourth largest memory module manufacturer in 1999 . The company is headquartered in Taiwan, China, and has Apacer Electronics (Shanghai) Co., Ltd. in Shanghai. In addition, it has branches in the United States, Europe, Japan, India and other places."
13. Zhang, Xuhong 張旭宏 (2010-10-15). "台股宇瞻科技通過上市審議股價2天漲逾1成全年營收上看130億元" [Apacer Technology passes listing review, stock price rises by more than 10% in 2 days, annual revenue reaches 13 billion yuan]. 頭條新聞 [cnYES] (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-04-28. Retrieved 2024-04-28.
  The article notes: "宇瞻科技成立於1997年，主要從事記憶體模組製造銷售，產品包含記憶體模組(DRAM Module)、快閃記憶體相關產品(如快閃記憶儲存卡、快閃碟、消費性儲存控制器、嵌入式快閃記憶體模組、可摧式多媒體儲存裝置)、動態隨機存取記憶體、快閃記憶體等，... 全球第七大DRAM Module廠，2009年市佔率約4.4%，市場結構為內銷佔28%、亞洲佔34%、歐洲佔24%、美洲14%。"
  From Google Translate: "Apacer Technology was founded in 1997 and is mainly engaged in the manufacturing and sales of memory modules. Its products include DRAM Modules, flash memory related products (such as flash memory cards, flash disks, and consumer storage controllers). , embedded flash memory modules, destructible multimedia storage devices), dynamic random access memory, flash memory, etc., ... Currently, the company is the seventh largest DRAM Module manufacturer in the world, with a market share of approximately 4.4% in 2009. The market structure is domestic sales accounting for 28%, Asia 34%, Europe 24%, and Americas 14%."
14. Product reviews:
  1. Chuenprasaeng, Paisal (2003-09-07). "pacer Audio steno Bp300: Apace sets the pace for tunes". The Nation. Archived from the original on 2024-04-28. Retrieved 2024-04-28.
    The review notes: "Apacer Audio Steno BP300 is a beautifully designed three-in-one device capable of playing digital music, recording and serving as a mobile hard disk. Despite all these features, it has a reasonable price of only Bt4,000."
  2. Yap, Nigel (2002-04-11). "Portable storage media for PCs and notebooks". New Straits Times. Archived from the original on 2024-04-28. Retrieved 2024-04-28.
    The review notes: "All in all, the Apacer Handy Drive is a useful device to have around, especially if you are tired of floppy drives. It is portable, small, and can hold quite a a good deal of data. This is especially so if you are to purchase the one-gigabyte (GB) version of the Apacer Handy Drive which will cost RM3,000. The setback is when you want to transfer files to machines running on Windows 98 and below as you would need to have the driver files."
  3. "The road warrior's CD writer continues to grow apace: Slow down". British Journal of Photography. Vol. 150, no. 7432. 2003-06-04. p. 11. ProQuest 1673730224.
    The review notes: "As things stand, with a price tag of just under £200 (before VAT) the Apacer is attractively positioned, but not exceptionally so. It is therefore significant to report that the drive comes with its own padded case, which is a definite bonus. Although a CompactFlash card was mentioned above, the drive has a six-type card reader that also accepts MMC/SD, Memory Stick, ...One observation that I had not come across until I tried the Apacer was the incompatibility that appears to exist between older CD writers and the latest high speed discs, but not vice versa. So whereas my own La Cie drive, which has an 18x maximum write speed, was uncomfortable with 48x TDK discs, the Apacer, despite only being able to write at up to 24x, was perfectly contented."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Apacer (Chinese: 宇瞻科技股份有限公司) to pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria, which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject".
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Keep based on the sources found by Cunard. Mccapra (talk) 05:32, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blind Woman (song)[edit]

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Does not establish notability. The references in the article appear to be either primary sources or cannot be considered reliable due to the lack of editorial oversight within their staff. A quick check before the nomination showed no better sources that could be included, nor any other indicators of notability like a chart appearance. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:13, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Zarah: Found no coverage myself. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 14:01, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mike Parenti[edit]

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I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage of the subject, a French rugby league player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. The best I could find was this from Treize Mondial, which is only a couple of sentences. JTtheOG (talk) 19:45, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - pro footballer who played in the Super League, sourced.Fleets (talk) 07:17, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Undecided: Playes for Catalans and there should be more written about him. Should be expanded, but currently not sufficient coverage. Mn1548 (talk) 16:29, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No significant coverage. Fails WP:SPORTBASIC. J Mo 101 (talk) 11:43, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Schwein[edit]

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Relisting as previous nomination did not attract any comment and soft deletion was not applicable. Non-notable band that only lasted one year; no sources found in English or German. Sources in Japanese linked on the page do not show WP:SIGCOV. Broc (talk) 14:41, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I believe the article should stay up. Per v, point 6, the group consists of several independently notable musicians. Weiqwbo (talk) 14:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per comment above, but also if only because having this content in each of the individual artist pages would be redundant (which is probably the point of Wikipedia:Notability (music) #6) -- t_kiehne (talk) 18:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question. Were they big in Japan? Bearian (talk) 20:09, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – KMFDM's parallel project, I believe it has enough notability. Svartner (talk) 09:04, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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146th Air Support Operations Squadron[edit]

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It exists but there is limited coverage (article currently unreferenced, with some possible sources which could be added). I couldn't see that it meets WP:ORG / WP:GNG in its own right, or a suitable merge target. Boleyn (talk) 14:55, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep A quick WP:BEFORE shows plenty of sources exist. [15][16][17][18][19] Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:48, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
None of those sources are really independent of the subject. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:19, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per Hawkeye7, though this page does need some cleanup Claire 26 (talk) 00:28, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wz. 89 Puma[edit]

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Unclear why this shortlived Polish camouflage pattern would be notable, sources are primary or passing it seems. Fram (talk) 14:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep. It would be nice to hear a critique of the existing sources in more detail. My BEFORE found one RS, with SIGCOV (a paragraph): http://pngs.nowogard.eu/images/Taktyka/Maciej-Dojlitko-strony--1-101.pdf (a Polish academic book on camo). I know it is just one source, but if we consider sources present, borderline notability may appear. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 23:13, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Katsunori Iketani[edit]

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fails general notability guideline. current sources in article are databases. search only finds other databases and this, which spells his name 2 different ways...? ltb d l (talk) 07:18, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Weak because article creator or editors could've done more such as add results rather than leave it a single sentence stub article. Japanese Wikipedia hints that he may was a driver of a national level but like this, does not provide context too. Digging further, looking at his result database on JAF (source), he may as well pass criteria 4 of WP:NMOTORSPORT as he had some sucesses in top level national racing. A selection of highlights in his career as below.

A class win at the 1995 All Japan Grand Touring Car Championship
A top 5 season finish at the 1996 All Japan Grand Touring Car Championship
Throughout that decade, he made consistent appearances.

SpacedFarmer (talk) 10:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yet the Japanese article has the same sources as the English one – the article can't be kept on race results alone, there needs to be some independent, substantive coverage. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 02:28, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The whole point of having subject-specific guidelines is that verifying that a subject meets that criteria means that their article is kept. In this case, I agree with SpacedFarmer that he meets criteria 4 of WP:NMOTORSPORT. He also meets criteria 2 since he completed the 1988 season of the World Sportscar Championship (by which point the series was a professional racing series). Therefore, I also !vote keep on this article. DCsansei (talk) 11:15, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, that is absolutely not the purpose of SNGs (WP:SNG). SNGs are indicators of when a subject is likely to be notable. Articles still need to meet the GNG: if there are no usable sources, there cannot be an article. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 11:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

From the guideline you cite: "topics which pass an SNG are presumed to merit an article". Unless you've done a review of Japanese motorsports print coverage from the 80s and 90s, I don't think we've established that "adequate sourcing or significant coverage cannot be found" to overrule the SNG. DCsansei (talk) 11:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You don't prove a negative. We're at AfD, it's on the keep !voters to present sources. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 11:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We seem to have a different definition of presumed. I define it as meaning that we assume something to be true, meaning that if a subject verifiably passes an SNG, we assume that they merit an article. Per WP:SNG: "The subject-specific notability guidelines generally include verifiable criteria about a topic which show that appropriate sourcing likely exists for that topic" and "topics which pass an SNG are presumed to merit an article, though articles which pass an SNG or the GNG may still be deleted or merged into another article, especially if adequate sourcing or significant coverage cannot be found."

Generally, in a AfD, the onus would be on keep !voters. Given the presumption of notability if a subject passes an SNG, that onus is reversed when that becomes the case per WP:SNG. DCsansei (talk) 12:35, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. I can't find any sources whatsoever. Feel free to present evidence to the contrary, but as I cannot be reasonably expected to provide evidence of an absence, we will have to presume that is a fact for now. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 12:50, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On the contrary, unless you're stating you've comprehensively reviewed print sources from the 80s/90s and were unable to find significant coverage, we'll have to presume that the subject is notable per WP:SNG. DCsansei (talk) 13:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed I have. What a tragedy, Iketani's article deleted because nobody could find a source... how could we allow this to happen to somebody so unquestionably notable? 5225_C (talk • contributions) 13:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per my comment above that he meets criteria 2 and 4 of WP:NMOTORSPORT. DCsansei (talk) 11:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete until non-database sources with significant coverage can be presented. While I am sympathetic to the potential of there being offline, likely Japanese-language sources existing, those of us on enwiki who do not speak Japanese should not be burdened with having to find those sources. Until evidence of those sources existing can be found, what exists is purely database in nature. Nothing exists with which to write encyclopedic content in English or Japanese. The subject does not, with the sources available, meet the WP:GNG. The SNG section also says "Therefore, topics which pass an SNG are presumed to merit an article, though articles which pass an SNG ... may still be deleted ..., especially if adequate sourcing or significant coverage cannot be found...." Wikipedia is not a database. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 17:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NOTDATABASE does not cover entries for sportspeople. "those of us on enwiki who do not speak Japanese should not be burdened with having to find those sources." I don't speak Japanese but I don't have much issues with it either, having held subscriptions to some car magazines in the past. Wikipedians write annual pages about sumo wrestling despite most of these sources being in Japanese too. "Until evidence of those sources existing can be found, what exists is purely database in nature. Nothing exists with which to write encyclopedic content in English or Japanese." There are offline books and magazines. So, you are saying we need sources in English language for it to pass notability in English Wikipedia, am I right? SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:17, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
that's insane. the not policy covers everything. ltb d l (talk) 08:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This policy is intended for lists, not articles about people. SpacedFarmer (talk) 13:26, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
where on earth did you get that notion? ltb d l (talk) 13:28, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't speak Japanese but I don't have much issues with it either, having held subscriptions to some car magazines in the past.

huh????

There are offline books and magazines. So, you are saying we need sources in English language for it to pass notability in English Wikipedia, am I right?

that is obviously not what he said. ltb d l (talk) 13:27, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Trikanya[edit]

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I can't find much sources that this film establishes notability per WP:NFILM. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:07, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The movie fails to meet WP:GNG due to the absence of significant in-depth coverage. Additionally, it lacks reviews from national critics, failing WP:NPOL. Grabup (talk) 04:39, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NPOL? I see that is a mistake. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:12, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I would have voted to redirect it to List of Odia films of 2024 but such page has not been created yet. Film exists but lacks reviews, receptions and coverage about the film, cast and crew. RangersRus (talk) 13:02, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Indian films of 2024: The list of Odia films does not exist for 2024. If sources are presented, obviously, not opposed to K. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:04, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Buchanan Corner, Indiana[edit]

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Google incorrectly claims this to be a township, but the GHits are all clickbait except for a find-a-grave result or two; GBooks literally produces nothing but GNIS predecessors and a single hit to a county history (which does not pan out) before tossing out nonsense. The oldest topo I looked at labels a Buchanan School at the intersection, replaced in the next by the Buchanan Corner label. The coords, btw, are considerably off, as seems to be a feature of many Clay County locations. Anyway, there's nothing here and no documentation at all of the place besides the topos/GNIS. Mangoe (talk) 03:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Lewis Township, Clay County, Indiana per nom. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 04:55, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why? Mangoe (talk) 11:36, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanh Cong Dinh[edit]

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Does not meet WP:GNG. These links are all garbage. This person is a research assistant, not the lead researcher. Jb45424 (talk) 03:00, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thato Lebang[edit]

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Judoka with lots of sources in the article, though most of them contain trivial mentions of the subject or no mention at all. The only thing approaching WP:SIGCOV I found was this, which would not be enough on its own to meet WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 02:23, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Coverage mainly is passing mentions and articles about event participation. He's not even mentioned in some of the references. The International Judo Federation shows him with 6 victories in 33 matches [20] and no medals in 27 events. His 3 appearances at the world championships resulted in no wins, with losses in the rounds of either 64 or 128. His three matches lasted a combined total of less than 3 minutes. Papaursa (talk) 12:21, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unique Kings Obi[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG or any related SNG. Sources are either passing mention, primary or not independent of the subject. The only sources that give SIGCOV are obviously promotional paid puffs and connected to the subject. The Vanguard piece [21], and the Independent pieces [22], [23] are examples. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 02:06, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Subject is a notable figure in Nigeria and has enough sources to prove this. The passing mentions for were added to as an evidence to a sentence. The references about the African Creators Summit were also added to evidence the information that he is the founder of the summit Mevoelo (talk)

Ernesto Wong[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Non-notable baseball career with no statistics, and no coverage outside playing city (Turin). 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 19:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep the obituaries were published by several news outlets: TorinoToday, Repubblica, RaiNews, La Stampa, Corriere. It seems enough to justify GNG, but I found very little pre-death coverage. Broc (talk) 06:36, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Sources above basically parrot each other in eulogizing him and mentioning that a relative plays for the Texas Rangers. There's nothing about Wong's career while he never played in a top-flight league. It's not enough to even establish WP:SPORTCRIT. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 21:40, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Italian language in Romania[edit]

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Not really about the Italian language in Romania. It’s mostly a coatrack about Italians in Romania and about the similarities between Romanian and Italian. Biruitorul ^Talk 21:15, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Italians in Romania per WP:ATD. Most of the article seems to be about Italians in Romania, with only a fraction about what the article should be about. Thus merge it and move the content actually about the the Romanian and Italian languages to a section of Italians in Romania or a section under Romanian or Italian. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 22:07, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom and per Flemmish Nietzsche. Article is not mainly of its topic and has a lot of unsourced information. I don't think the topic is notable to justify its split from Italians in Romania, it's not like the language is very present in the country. Super Ψ Dro 22:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep part of it, merge the rest. The sections on the languages should be kept. The various sections about other topics, like Italian Emigration to Romania, belong in the article for Italians in Romania. I can see an argument for merging the language sections with that article but I do think that the language elements are worthy of their own article. Lamona (talk) 04:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Why is Italians in Romania a preferable redirect target over Languages of Romania? IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 13:58, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Italian isn't listed there as a language used in Romania. I don't know why that is, but it seems to be based on something like census data. If Italian doesn't show in official statistics it probably shouldn't be addressed there. Lamona (talk) 14:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to the latest census, there are 4105 native speakers of Italian in Romania. Biruitorul ^Talk 19:09, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because the use of a language in a country would intuitively be covered in the existing article for the minority speaking that language in the country. Super Ψ Dro 22:07, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep part of it, merge the rest. per Lamona. --cyclopia ^speak! 14:21, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Zerry DL[edit]

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Fails WP:NMUSICIAN, then fails WP:GNG. Article is almost entirely made from utterly unreliable blogs, some do no mention the subject at all. And being the brother of the notable Shallipopi doesn’t inherently makes him notable too. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 01:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of TVB series (1977)[edit]

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Fails NLIST. Found no sources showing this subject (1977 TVB series) has been discussed as a group by independent reliable sources. // Timothy :: talk 01:09, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Guatemalan Dogo[edit]

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Only managed to find trivial mentions of the breed being included in lists of banned breeds, I did ask on Wikiproject Guatemala about possible Spanish sources but I've realised that the project is quite inactive. I'm hoping someone familiar with Spanish will be able to confirm if general notability is met with Spanish sources or not. If notability cannot be established I'm in favour of a redirect to list of dog breeds Traumnovelle (talk) 02:47, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bill Cahan[edit]

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Fails WP:ARCHITECT and WP:BASIC. The two external links are broken/outdated. No inline citations to any claims. Article is written like a resume. Edit history indicates COI. News search/scholar is minimal. Recommend delete. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 01:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Definitely fails WP:ARCHITECT and WP:BASIC. No sourcing whatsoever. Does indeed read like a resume, but in an unfocused way. Just a rambling stream of what this individual did with their various interests. — Maile (talk) 02:32, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No hits in Google for this person; this reads like a personal web page. Not suitable for wiki. Oaktree b (talk) 04:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or move to Cahan & Associates. The design firm he founded is definitely notable. Quotes below are the abstracts from ProQuest.

Baggerman, Lisa (1999). "Annuals with style". How. 14 (2): 142. ProQuest 233342555.
Pruzan, Todd (1999). "Hungry minds". Print. 53 (3). ProQuest 231014590. San Francisco's Cahan & Associates, a graphics design firm, is profiled. Cahan & Associates has won numerous design awards and consistently produces standout pieces.
Hall, Peter (1999). "Printed matter". ID: The International Design Magazine. 46 (6): 46. ProQuest 214751639. Bill Cahan has once again proven himself to be "the Steven Spielberg of annual reports" with the creation of Cahan & Associates extraordinary paperback-sized annual report for voice technology company General Magic.
McCarthy, Robert (1999). "Against the grain". Photo District News. 19 (4): 121–123. ProQuest 202872273. Bill Cahan, creative director and principal at Cahan and Associates in San Francisco, incorporates photojournalistic essays into commissioned brochures, catalogues and annual reports. His design firm has won numerous awards.
Heller, Steven (2000). "I Am Almost Always Hungry". Print. 53 (3). ProQuest 231024970. Heller reviews "I Am Almost Always Hungry" by Cahan & Associates
Kidd, Chip (2000). "I Am Almost Always Hungry". ID: The International Design Magazine. 47 (2): 112. ProQuest 214755886. Kidd reviews "I Am Almost Always Hungry" by Cahan & Associates

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Nkosana Makate[edit]

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Product of WP:BLP1E. Yes, the subject has been making the news in the past few months but this is all just 15 minutes of fame. WP:ATD, a redirect to Vodacom#"Please Call Me" would make sense. dxneo (talk) 00:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment this case been in the news for years, not months. It has been extensively covered in WP:RS for that time. So the nomination description of it as “15 minutes of fame” is inaccurate. Makate may, or may not be notable in terms of WP:BLP1E but the case almost certainly is. Park3r (talk) 03:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Park3r, the case may be notable. However, I don't think Nkosana Makate is, the article is composed of this particular case only. Opening statement says "…is a South African who proposed the "Buzz" idea to Vodacom", no description nor WP:SIGCOV, and back to the nom, this is a clear BLP1E. Until relevant sources are brought to light, I think redirecting the article to Vodacom is the way to go. dxneo (talk) 04:50, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Not sure I understand the deletion rationale here. The case is definitely notable and as much as Nkosana Makate may not be notable but he definitely deserves a mention in the case because after all he is the central figure to the case. Also, seeing that most articles on Wikipedia are about Europe and U.S and there is a serious lack of African content (including content on languages) I think it would have been wise for you Dineo to be bold fix the issues on this article and go on to translate it to your mother tongue than tag it for speedy deletion. Wikimedia ZA is there to support African Wikimedian like yourself to increase African content and languages on Wikipedia. Please reach out to me on bobby.shabangu@wikimedia.org.za to talk more on how we can support you. Bobbyshabangu _talk 18:36, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bobbyshabangu, yes he may be the central figure but this is pure WP:BLP1E (meaning he's known for one event only) which is the deletion rationale here. I wouldn't have nominated it for deletion if there was something I could do to improve it. Nkosana Makate is already mentioned on Vodacom#Please Call Me. Note that your comment does not support your "keep" !vote in any way. dxneo (talk) 19:35, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Vodacom#"Please Call Me". I find the nominator's argument that this is a WP:BLP1E situation convincing. Jfire (talk) 02:42, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Vodacom as per nom, not enough here for a standalone page.-KH-1 (talk) 03:21, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hans-Freudenberg-Kolleg[edit]

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It is one of many small associations in Germany that rent out living space to students. Neither the association nor its dormitory has any special significance that would justify an article; I couldn't find any independent sources that is not advertisement. Was deleted twice in German Wikipedia because of nonexistent notability. Killarnee (talk) 00:27, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, fails WP:ORG/WP:CORP. Run-of-the-mill student housing association. Jfire (talk) 02:44, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Singapore at the 2026 Asian Games[edit]

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Delete per WP:TOOSOON. It's still too early for this article to exist. Created by the same user who created Vietnam at the 2026 Asian Games which I also nominated for deletion. CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify per WP:TOOSOON. Frank Anchor 00:26, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify per Frank. S5A-0043^Talk 08:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Struck above after remembering the 6 month rule for draftspace. Delete. S5A-0043^Talk 14:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete way WP:TOOSOON. In 6 months time, it will still be too soon, and so I object to draftifying this as draftspace is not an indefinite holding area. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:54, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree strongly. It is very reasonable to have some level of information about a country's participation in international competition two years ahead of time. Therefore, drafspace would be the exact opposite of an indefinite holding area If this proves not to be the case, the draft can easily be deleted in October 2024. Frank Anchor 15:25, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For most events like this, the qualifying tournaments will be at most a year before the event i.e. in 2025. Unless there is evidence that there are 2026 Asian Games qualifiers this year, and so we'll know some qualified Singaporean competitors in 6 months time, then draftspace is not needed. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:32, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Utterly non-encyclopedic. The current entry contains nothing of value. The desire to create articles way ahead of time needs to be stamped out. It's an unhealthy "I was here first" culture which does not add value to Wikipedia. Geschichte (talk) 08:43, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify: per all above. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 00:28, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment from nominator: I strongly oppose draftifying, since it will still be TOOSOON in 6 months time, as Joseph2302 states. Deletion is definitely preferrable. CycloneYoris ^talk! 21:18, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I contend that "Draftify per TOOSOON" does not hold water in that it will still be too soon for 12–15 more months. There is nothing worth retaining in that the article contains no information other than a circular definition of the article title: "Singapore at the 2026 Asian Games means that Singapore will compete at the 2026 Asian Games". Geschichte (talk) 19:26, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per all above. Svartner (talk) 09:11, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify, as a preferable WP:ATD. If there isn't information added to the article in 6 months time, it can easily and with little effort be deleted. Esolo5002 (talk) 02:14, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: This is a case of WP:TOOSOON and this will also be the case in the near future, so no need for draftification. Let'srun (talk) 02:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
delete for Pete's sake. It's a one sentence article which will outdated if they do compete, and false if they don't. There is nothing here to save for a draft, unless you think it's too much trouble to recreate an infobox. It isn't. Mangoe (talk) 03:29, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Manini (1985 film)[edit]

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Appears to fail WP:NFILM. Nothing found to support notability DonaldD23 talk to me 00:26, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Was unable to find any reliable sources, much less threshold needed to meet GNG. Cara Wellington (talk) 05:18, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or Redirect to Ravi_Kinagi#Odia_film. Page has poor unreliable sources. Not much can be found other than on imdb. RangersRus (talk) 12:54, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See my !vote, but if to a list of films by year, it should be redirected to one of Odia films not Kannada. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:58, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are right. I got mixed up with same name film from 1979 in Kannada. RangersRus (talk) 13:20, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Ravi_Kinagi#Odia_film: it is listed there. The Routledge Handbook of Indian cinema gives 1986 as release year. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:55, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Co'Motion Dance Theater[edit]

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Little more than WP:ROUTINE, Iowa focused coverage, both in listed sources, and in search results. Fails WP:ORGCRIT given insufficient WP:AUD. Allan Nonymous (talk) 00:14, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no sign of sufficient notability and, given the dead state of the webpage link, unlikely to generate further notability. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 00:28, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. No notable people connected with the company. No notable premieres or collaborations with notable composers. Very WP:MILL. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:51, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete doesn`t meet GNG, need more reliable sources--Improvised but so real unicorn (talk) 10:16, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Files[edit]

File:Two suspects wanted by the FBI for the bombing.jpg[edit]

This file is in the public domain per {{PD-automated}}. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 04:47, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I don't think US copyright has been settled with respect to this kind of image and the fact someone created a template for such a license doesn't necessary mean much, other than someone created a template for such a license. Even the Wikipedia article referenced in the template states that US case law is untested on the matter. Of course, Wikipedia articles aren't reliable sources for any purpose, but being unclear means it's probably best to err on the side of caution and keep this file licensed as non-free. Of course, if you can cite specific US cases in which this came up and resulted in such footage being declared ineligible for copyright protection, please do so since that will help further assess the file's copyright status. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:18, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Categories[edit]

NEW NOMINATIONS[edit]

Category:Tuvan independence activists[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Tuvan independence activists to Category:Tuvan activists

Nominator's rationale: Broaden this category so it can include other kinds of activists. Mason (talk) 04:22, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Category:Tuvan people and Category:Independence activists as it is rather unlikely that we can further populate an activists category. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:18, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

People from Overseas France by ethnic or national origin[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Guadeloupean people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Guadeloupean people by descent
Propose renaming Category:Martiniquais people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Martiniquais people by descent
Propose renaming Category:Saint Martinois people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Saint Martinois people by descent
Propose renaming Category:People from Overseas France by ethnic or national origin to Category:People from Overseas France by descent

Nominator's rationale: rename for consistency with their subcategories which are all "by descent", as well as for consistency with Category:French people by descent at the top of the tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:23, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom Mason (talk) 04:22, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Suicide books[edit]

Propose splitting Category:Suicide books to Category:Books about suicide and Category:Suicide methods

Nominator's rationale: Dual merge: These categories seem to be extremely overlapping Mason (talk) 02:16, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Single merge to Category:Books about suicide; Category:Suicide methods does not seem to be an appropriate merge target. Perhaps keep a redirect. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:02, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Georgetown College (Kentucky)[edit]

Propose renaming Category:Georgetown College (Kentucky) to Category:Georgetown College

Nominator's rationale: In line with the main article, Georgetown College. Graham (talk) 02:08, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirects[edit]

UA (India)[edit]

UA (India) → Uttarakhand (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

There is no indication that the abbreviation UA is used in any context for Uttarakhand. There is a vehicle code column in the table at States and union territories of India where UK is used for Uttarakhand, but no UA. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:39, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Vehicle registration plates of India, this was the vehicle registration code for the former name of the state "Uttaranchal". Gotitbro (talk) 11:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A 17-year out-of-date vehicle code seems an unlikely search term to merit a redirect from "UA (India)" to Uttarakhand. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:21, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Earthquake and tsunami, List of earthquakes and tsunamis[edit]

Earthquake and tsunami, List of earthquakes and tsunamis → List of tsunamis (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Unlikely search term. Toadette^Edit! 11:14, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Milwauke[edit]

Milwauke → Milwaukee (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Incomplete spelling to disambig, search results shows products which do not have their own Wikipedia entries. No pages in disambig have the title. Toadette^Edit! 08:04, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hatnote (disambiguation)[edit]

Hatnote (disambiguation) → Wikipedia:Hatnote (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Appears to be a bad cross namespace redirect. Note that the page Hatnote was brought up for discussion multiple times and closed as no consensus. One may not even be searching for this. Toadette^Edit! 07:54, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete I didn't know about WP:R2 at the time. JoshuaAuble (talk) 11:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agamy[edit]

Agamy → Agami (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This term has two meanings in English, one being asexual reproduction and the other "Absence or nonrecognition of marriage, or absence of a pair bond", according to wikt:agamy. The current target is because it existed as a duplicate page of Agami, which would be a transliteration/translation, a synonym/alternate term, or a misspelling. I think Wiktionary is the best target. And it should be noted that it would mean agamy [pt; ca; simple] (agamia in Romance langauges), so this could be {{R with possibilities}} (until a better disambiguator exists). --MikutoH ^talk! 00:00, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Templates and Modules[edit]

Template:R from gap in series[edit]

Template:R from gap in series (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Rarely used RCAT. Almost all of the redirects tagged with this RCAT are redirects to sections about particular countries in annual Eurovision contest articles. Additionally, the instructions are contradictory: the RCAT says it is for topics that "do[] not meet notability requirements to warrant [their] own article[s]", but then says that it should be tagged with {{R with possibilities}} if the topic could be notable. All of these redirects can be sufficiently handled by {{R to subtopic}} and, as appropriate, {{R to section}}. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:19, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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User warning templates by 71211.21User[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Speedily deleted per G5. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 13:02, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Uw-generic4im (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Uw4ul (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Uw-vandalism4ul (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Uw-error4ul (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Uw-softblock (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Uw-e4ul (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Uw3im (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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Appears to simply be worse versions of existing warning templates, often riddled with grammatical errors. No real purpose for these templates to exist. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 12:44, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete, exact same behavior as now-blocked User:User2802.172 (likely sock of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/User 28062F033EOF457DC93EEFAABBET2C3). Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:51, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I had a hunch this was someone's sock. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 12:58, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for finding this one! I just reported it at SPI. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:59, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I see you just blocked it already. Good call. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 13:00, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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