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Landing craft Mordowija 782 during Zapad 2009
Landing craft Mordowija 782 during Zapad 2009
5x expanded by Piotrus (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 507 past nominations.

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Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:11, 18 April 2024 (UTC).

PS. I forgot to mention - there are plenty of images available for this hook. See https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Zapad_2009 --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:31, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

You'll want to add one of these to the nom for consideration.--Launchballer 19:44, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
@Launchballer: I am not sure how to do it post-nom. But I'd suggest File:Zapad-2009 military exercises.jpg. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:01, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
By finding another nom that does it successfully and adapting it. I'll leave it to you to add a caption and will call for a reviewer.--Launchballer 15:47, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. Caption: "Landing craft Mordowija 782 during Zapad 2009". --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:42, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Added.--Launchballer 23:54, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

New enough (5x expansion), long enough, well-written. Image is appropriately licensed as far as I can determine. QPQ is done. The hook is interesting and supported by an inline citation but not supported in its current format by what is written in the article. The article is a bit ambiguous on this point. On the one hand it asserts that "[...] it also simulated an amphibious landing in Poland, as well as - and most controversially - a nuclear attack against Poland (hitting Warsaw)." In my reading, this is a claim that the exercise did in fact contain such a simulation. Later, however, it is stated that "Other sources noted that the exercise involved nuclear-capable ballistic missiles (Iskander), but not necessarily a simulation of a nuclear attack on another country." I think this could be easily solved by re-phrasing the first sentence, but it should be resolved before I give the green light. Otherwise all criteria are fulfilled. Yakikaki (talk) 19:34, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

@Yakikaki: Can I trouble you to suggest an alt hook with a revised wording that I can then review and adopt? I am not sure what exact minor wording change you suggest, but I am pretty sure I'd be fine with it and I'd propose it myself if I wasn't too tired to figure it out myself now. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Alt 1a ... that Russian and Belarussian Zapad 2009 military exercise about repelling a NATO attack might have included simulated nuclear strikes on another country?
@Piotrus and Yakikaki: thoughts? --evrik (talk) 17:08, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
  • There's nothing wrong with the original hook, and Alt 1a doesn't solve the problem. The issue, which I think is very easily fixed, is that the article isn't clear on the point whether it might have included a simulated nuclear strikes on another country, or whether it in fact did. That needs to be clarified. I can then greenlight it. Yakikaki (talk) 18:03, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Yakikaki, The article cites the sources; some of which say this happened and some which are more cautious. Not sure how to word it better than what we already have, both in the hook and in the article. If you think you have a better wording, be bold. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:16, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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